Digidesign and Pro Tools Next Move

Obviously, I have no inside information but I got into an interesting conversation the other day and we were really puzzled by what could or should be Digidesign's next move.

With Logic 8 and now 9, Apple has clearly tried to do what they did with Final Cut Pro and even what Microsoft did to Netscape back in the day…

Make the software cheap enough that their competitors couldn't stay in business. Squeeze 'em out. Years ago this wouldn't have mattered as a native system couldn't really keep up. But it certainly has narrowed that gap dramatically these days.

Now Digidesign is in the Native game too but do they really want to be? That's a game they can't control. Is Pro Tools LE really better than Logic? At best, it's a matter of opinion. No longer a fact.

And Digidesign built it's reputation as being the standard, but as more and more novices jump into the water (and they are at an alarming rate) that could and probably will change. Which means Pro Tools feature set will have to keep up with all other software as the "studio standard" badge they've been wearing for so long will no longer be a selling point.

For now, the HD systems will still be home for the situations where budget is not an issue. If you're doing post for a $350 million dollar movie, do you care about blowing 30k on a system? Probably not. So Digidesign can probably hold these clients as an HD9 system running on a Mac Pro 8 core will still kick any native systems butt.

And it's price point, Pro Tools LE is still in the game with any level of native system you can afford being available. So they can "compete" there. But can they "dominate"?

Where they are really getting squeezed is in the middle. The HD users who are quite happy with their system but can't afford to buy another 8k -15k system. But they may have to. Or switch.

Why? Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard is the new Mac OS and it's Mac Intel-only. So if you have a PPC Mac, you're left out. Not the biggest problem for the LE user. Sell your computer and get a newer one. ($2,500 minus what you sell your older one for). But for the HD user, who is still using a Mac G5 because it has PCI slots (instead of PCIe cards), you have to buy a new computer plus get a crossgrade for all your cards. (about $5,000 more for an HD 3 owner like me).

And Digidesign has announced that they are no longer supporting PPC macs in their next major software update. I assume because they don't want to write code for Snow Leopard and old Leopard. Can't blame them. It's Apple that keeps changing their OS quicker than the animals they keep naming them after. :•)

So a major part of their core user base will have to make the decision:
(I say "core" because this is the base that made them the "studio standard".)

1. Spend 3 times as much as a Native user to upgrade and keep current with little extra benefit.
2. Stick with your older machine and hope that Pro Tools 9 isn't something that you really need. As you watch the Mbox guys get to use it.
3. Make the switch to a Native system and cash in those cards.

It's an interesting time in the DAW world with programs like Reaper also changing the game. I don't envy Digidesign's place in the game at this point.

Although they could always WOW us with something new. It wouldn't be the first time.

Cheers.

Interesting points

Interesting points Kenny.

I've always wondered when PT's business model would start biting them in the ass. There always seemed to be a built in breaking point as other applications catch up and in some respects even excel. I have to admit my own amusement as I've watched Reaper grow by leaps and bounds and hold to an unbeatable price point.

Really, how much more can a DAW do unless it actually starts providing the talent?

I haven't looked at LE (or any other daw app) in so long..has it improved that much?

I think the dilemmas you describe are the result of their own practices and I can't muster much sympathy for the company's short sightedness and the way customers are looking around for alternatives. Nor for the gang in Cupertino.

I hear there's a new app for the iPhone called iQuit. It runs on Linux.

Well expounded Kenny. I'm

Well expounded Kenny. I'm beginning to see more and more producers, artists and writers, who heretofore have used Pro Tools, going to Logic. Not only because of cost, upgrading, compatibility with the latest OS version but because they love the bundled sounds.

Additionally, I've heard rumors that PT 9 will be unveiled at NAMM in January...and that it'll require new hardware. Unless Avid/Digi makes a MIDI cable that plugs directly into your brain it'll be a matter of "how many jump off the platform".

Protools logic and the middle guy!

Kenny,
You are so spot in in your discussion. I am exactly that guy, i run an HD3 system on a PPC G5, and three LE systems in my studio. Most of my work is post though i do probably, half a dozen albums a year. i have just installed both Logic 9 and Sonar on my new Intel G5, but i can't afford to shell out the money simply for a card exchange with no increased functionality just to have new cards for HD.
So my Protools HD adventure will most likely stop at 8 and i'll keep that system running as it still works great (i have a control 24 surface, so the whole thing is a great way to mix). Ill keep upgrading to 9 etc in LE land, but i also feel that Digi have shot themselves in the foot by essentially just cutting us off.

One of my close colleagues is running 6 HD2 systems, and he's in the same position, there's no way on this earth he can upgrade 6 systems, so he's also going to Logic.

Given that now when you log in its all AVID, not even Digidesign anymore, you gotta wonder if PT will go the way of AVID video editing, and become a realm of those who don't care about costs (as you so nicely put it in your blog), so whereas Final Cut took a huge part of the video editing world, will Logic be the equivalent in audio?

So yes it's a changing game for guys in my position, after making my living off PT for over 15years now, I'm taking a trial separation to se what else is out there.

Anyway, just wanted to reinforce what you said and congratulate you on such a well stated concise assessment of the situation
Cheers
Trevor